Aren’t these the same guys who had Burns up by five right before he lost by ten?

Internal poll…*wink wink* And I make the best quiche, according to my mother.

Id say the race is within 5 points either way and anyones ball game. I dont think anyone will be motivated to vote for critz after some of his teabag repuke votes. Burns has not done too much it seems.

What is sad, is even if their internal is off… the number polled is 29 pct rep and 59 dem… which should tell critz something. GOTV will be huge in this one, to tilt it to the winner.

The fact of the matter is that Burns’ fundraising has almost completely dried up, and this “internal” poll is nothing more than a fundraising gimick to try to raise some money to show the NRCC that he still has chance to win.

I don’t know any GOPer with half a brian that has the 12th District near the top of the potential pick up list in PA. Not since Burns got hammered in the Special, after he and the State Party assured us of victory!

And I’m glad to see that it did not go unnoticed that this same pollster was the one who had Burns beating Critz in the Special. Better double check those numbers again, Tim!

Steve-

Points well taken. After his poll was so far off, he shouldnt be allowed to poll again. I wonder if they “get paid” to make it say what the candidate wants. However, the ratios, 29% rep and 63 % dem LIKELY VOTERS is scary. There certainly was a gap between Burns polling and the actual results. Critz path to victory is to get high turn out and margin of victory in ever shrinking Cambria county and Fayette, then try to split and weather the storm in Armstrong, Washington, Westmoreland, etc.

I am predicting from a turnout vantage point, when assessing the results of the last race, GOP motivation will be high. There was no primary fight last time, in the GOP primary and Dem turnout was higher in the 12th (because of the senate and guvs) primaries. Therefore, the GOP base didnt show up to vote… im predicting they will in the Fall. Whether that will be enough who knows. Their was a high amount of writeins and in retro, Burns only lost by a couple thousand votes in a district thats 63dem 29 rep.

I think a surpressed dem turnout… because candidates dont give them a reason to show up at the polls could make several candidates sweat this fall, Critz being one of them. Id have to say its a 5 pt race. Critz will not have the field organization or funding of the PA state party. While they think theirs is the most important race, in reality its only 1 out or 400 or so, which adds a different dimension all together.

Unfortunately, if Critz wins in November it is not because of bad polling or horrible GOP fundraising, it is because of his defense contractor cronies, seriously people, don’t you notice by his “I SUPPORT EVERY VETERAN ON EARTH” to “SOCIAL SECURITY IS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD” B.S., I mean come on people, there are reasons why certain politicians win, and certain ones don’t. It has nothing to do with qualifications, motivation, or what thier intentions are, it is all about what campaign contribution bribes you take, and how you follow through with the promise. Has anyone ever compared Burns to Critz? No one can honestly say Critz is the better speaker, did anyone watch the last debate before the Primary? I thought Critz was going into a diabetic coma right then and there, “WATER, I NEED WATER!”, and the entire podium was going to collapse. But, he still won, what does that tell you. Burns is well read, and more educated, but I guess that does not matter. White trash like Critz will win again, and we all know why.

Hey Reality…

As u know, I have been critical of Burns and Critz both in an equal manner and point well taken about Critz’s deficiencies. I would also argue that Burns has some deficiencies to in how he would deal with his constituency. I do take exception to and am highly offended by your “white trash” comment in referring to Critz. That is highly offensive and inappropriate for this forum.

My disagreement with both Critz and Burns are on several policy matters were i simply thought that the situation u’ve eluded to, being what it is in terms of the sheep…

i have disagreed that some controversial policies they support are in the best interest of the 12th district, and certainly not in touch with the majority of constituents. There’s no question that neither is the most qualified or would do the best for the district from an economic standpoint. Critz is pretty much focused on 1 sector which is a huge deficiency in the sense he tends to look at the Johnstown world first and is deficient at understanding the macro effects and their impact on the local levels, while Tim would be up at the country club lighting Boehner’s cigars and shining his putter as opposed to being an advocate for folks.

However, when getting personal… If there’s any garbage in this forum… its the stuff coming out of your mouth.

Although reality’s comment was on the personal side, it hit the nail on the head, and the voters of the 12th are the ones that will lose in the end.

I agree that Burns is not any better, in fact he would just be hanging out with his golf buddies, but that does not change the fact that Critz has absolutely nothing to offer, and was grandfathered in office, and will remain there because of his earmarking ways. Reality was merely pointing out how things will never change in W. PA, and worrying about who will get elected and be in office is a waste of time. The population of W. PA will continue to shrink because of corporate welfare, and it does not matter who said what on this blog and how personal it may be, the fact of the matter is things are what they are, and no matter who does what poll or how much money each side spends, it won’t change how the hardworking people of W. PA get the short end of the stick.

It is, what it is. Lets move on.