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Which GOPers have said that taxes have already been raised?

Obviously taxes haven’t been raised…yet

The (accurate) claim is that taxes will have to necessarily go up in order to pay for the massive spending projects taken on by this Congress.

And for what it’s worth, the “tanning tax” is in fact a tax increase, but that’s not the point.

The democrats in congress have explicitly said they will allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, which is a tax increase.

Normally like this site, but get your facts straight and do not pretend to be non-partisan on these kinds of stories…

Not necessary Eric, allowing the unpaid for tax cuts given to the wealthyest Americans to expire will bring us an instant reduction in the deficit. If Republican policy over the past 35 years (since Reagan) hadn’t been to create a massive National Debt. we wouldn’t be in this predicament. Never could figure out who is dumb enough to vote for people who can’t or won’t make government work.It’s Like hiring trash collectors who won’t,don’t like to get their hands dirty.

This specific article has nothing to do with the deficit, but it does have to do with tax increases. Allowing tax cuts to expire = raising taxes…

And if we’re going to talk about who the tax increase is going to affect, let’s be honest. Yes, the top rate will go back up to 39.6% up from the current 35%, which has been cited as a job-killer for small businesses. But let’s also not forget the child tax credit will be cut in half (didn’t realize only rich people had children). Dividends and capital gains taxes will also go up, and now more than ever, the average American is invested in the stock market (for better or for worse).

Now if you want to talk about the deficit, I agree, Republicans spent like drunken sailors from 2000-2008, and created the largest entitlement in ages (Medicare part D). So I’m not saying they got it right either. But the Democrats have spent insanely more in a much shorter period of time, with nothing to show for it but a still faltering economy.

It’s not about not wanting to get your hands dirty, its about not hiring 5 trash collectors when only one will do the trick.

But dropping money from helicopters creates jobs, also. The question is whether this stimulus plan was an intelligent or effective way of accomplishing this. The verdict of most voters appears to be “no.”

You have to wonder who is more to blame for the false impressions of the voters: the Republicans for speaking the lies, or the Dems for allowing them to get away with it?

Whatever the answer, it’s no way to run an election designed to produce elected officals who are honest, competent, aware of the problems we face, and more interested in solving them than they are in getting re-elected.

Just because the new taxes didn’t kick in yet, they were still legislatively passed, so it is raising taxes. You get hit after the vote, not after the legislation takes effect.

The CBO model (and Zandi model) uses exactly the same ones formula that predicted the stimulus would keep unemployment below 8%. It just plugs new spending numbers in, not at all measuring what happened: http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/policyblog/detail/the-imagined-effect-of-the-stimulus. Pretty tough to make the case that the stimulus “created jobs” when we have 3 million fewer jobs since it was enacted, and many economists would contend the package undermined job creation.

And your defense of calling Democrats tax hikers is that they voted to increase taxes, but most of those tax increases haven’t actually gone into effect yet?

Some “fact check”.

I’m new to this site, did not realize the crazy left is controlling this site as well.
It would be nice to find a site that JUST GIVES THE FACTS and the leaves the decision to the voters, at least those that are capable of reading facts and coming to their own conclusion without the rhetoric of either side.
The article states the stimulus package has tax cuts…what a joke. how do you “CUT” taxes to those that don’t pay taxes in the first place? Just becuase you have taxes taken from your check does not mean you are a tax payer. If you get ALL of it back and in a many cases more, that is WELFARE.
You are welcome.

I got a tax cut from the Stimulus, Jamie, and it was no joke. I’m not on welfare. Pretty much everyone who makes under $200,000 got that tax cut. Are you suggesting that America is filled with nothing but rich people and welfare recipients? Try to peer past your hatred for the President and you’ll see that everything this article said is true. The stimulus created jobs, and Democrats haven’t raised anyone’s taxes.

If Republicans want to accuse Democrats of wanting to raise taxes in the future, they should do so. They should just stop telling the lie that they already have. Nathan, what voted-on-but-not-yet-enacted tax increase are you referring to?

For the second time, a “fact-check” is notably faulty and, itself, misleading; clarity does not shine-through.

The taxation-point is so obvious–even without citation of the new taxes enacted under ObamaCare–that its inclusion as a GOP-error serves only to raise concerns regarding the composition of the “staff” that composed it.

The jobs-point omits the obvious vagueness of what constitutes a “saved” job…and it is disingenuous to cite a governmental entity that must slavishly base its conclusions blindly upon what has been carefully (slyly) presented to it (revised to “game” the outcome).

As noted regarding the Social Security essay of a few days ago, the fact-checkers need fact-checking!

Commenters who make over $250,000 a year –identify yourselves! the rest of us got a tax cut from the stimulus. Even conservative economists like Zandi of Moody’s agree that the stimulus saved 3 million jobs

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Well Angel, I’m a commenter who makes under $100,000 will I do? I also have 3 children and had a tax credit of $1,000 per child on my taxes which, as stated by Eric above, is getting cut in half. And who created that tax credit? Bush, not Obama, but he’s more than willing to let it end for us ‘rich’ people. My family also doesn’t spend beyond our means, unlike the current administration and their cohorts in Congress. Oh, by the way, what tax cuts are we talking about Obama creating? I haven’t seen any in my pay check.

Ok, you guys and gals want some real, true facts, here you go. The GOP controlled congress passed their tax legislation via Reconciliation, the same process they screamed bloody murder about when the Democrats used it to pass their legislation, legislation the CBO scored as cutting the deficit, supposedly a requirement for any bill passed in this manner. Thing is, the GOP tax cut bills increased the deficit, go figure. Meanwhile, because they used Reconciliation to ram through the cuts, they had to sunset the provisions. Democrats did not bake in the “tax hike”, Republicans did it. Democrats want to extend the tax cuts for everyone making less than $250k which includes every small business owner who draws less than $250k in salary and/or profits AFTER all business expenses (including their salary). There are certainly a few small, closely held businesses with owners pulling down over $250k after expenses, but there are way, way more that don’t, so the GOP claim that allowing the GOP instituted tax increase for the top 2% (of which a substantial portion would go in the form of a $1MM+ 10 yr. windfall to multi-millionaires) will not have a significant impact on small business hiring, once again, contrary to false GOP claims.
Oh, and before I forget, the vast majority of portion of the 98% of Americans who will not see a tax increase, if Obama has his way, have their stock market investments in retirement accounts which will be completely unaffected by changes to dividend and capital gains tax rates. The ones who will be impacted are the top .1%, people like Warren Buffet who will no longer pay an effective tax rate of almost 1/2 that of the little people who work for them.

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And the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has credited with between 1.2 and 2.8 million jobs, making the the unemployment rate as much as 1.5 percent lower than it would have been.

Do you mean “percentage points?”

But individual taxes have not gone up since President Obama took office,

But that’s not what Obama promised!

“I can make a firm pledge,” he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

He repeatedly vowed “you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime.”

WASHINGTON (AP) – One of President Barack Obama’s campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.

The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama’s promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.

You are spinning for Obama when you say he hasn’t raised individual taxes. Obama promised not to raise ANY TAX, he would not raise ANY OF OUR TAXES.

Obama lied and you are spinning. To call those telling the truth, liars you are scum.

We can also add tanning beds as well.

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