Contrast this to Sestak’s outright hostility, not to mention arrogance, towards Israel. These are difficult times for Israel, and it takes courage to defend them against the habitually anti-Israel “international community”. Let’s just hope that PA Jews remember which candidate was standing there next to Israel when it needed it most.

Oh please give me an example that he is hostile to Israel. I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.

Defense isn’t just limited to one country it’s every country on the planet has that right.

Well, he signed a letter along with 50-some far-left congressmen calling for Israel to lift security measures restricting Hamas’ abilities to operate in Gaza… a move that had even some Democrats saying that he had departed to far outside the mainstream of even his own party.

But regardless, where is Sestak’s voice of support for Israel after yesterday’s fiasco?

Who can support the indefensible? Israel attacks a convoy carrying food & meds with commandos and complains they were attacked.

Mr. Healy,

I’m not sure if what you wrote there is what you truly believe or if you simply wrote it to give Sestak political cover for his silence , but I truly hope it’s not the former. This was a ship full of thugs organized and sponsored by an organization with a long history of terrorist ties. They knew exactly what would happen if they attempted to run the blockade and they were armed and ready to be boarded. It was a trap, and Israel stepped right into it.

No one would doubt that Israel made an enormous mistake in the way it handled the situation, but to describe the situation as “Israel attacking a convoy carrying food and meds with commandos” is as naive as it is stupid.

nope a ship full of food and meds organized by Turkey,flying turkish flags (one of our NATO allies) 12 American citizens were detained,last I heard only 1 had been released, I hate the idea of my nation giving billions to a nation that has no desure to live in peace with it’s neighbors. Strictly my opinion. I don’t ask to clear anything I post with the Sestak campaign.building houses on land that doesn’t belong to you is theft.

yea this is fine, except for the part where Israel is totally in the wrong here.

Headline ought to be: “Toomey Sharpens Neocon Credentials”.

So Toomey supports piracy and murder in international waters.

Brilliant politics, Pat Toomey. Simply brilliant.

Then again, maybe it’ll play in Pittsburgh. They like Pirates there.

Sestak supporters unmasked as left-wing (radical)Noam Chomskyites.

I actually thought this Bailey character was relatively normal…but now that his guy won the dem primary, out comes the anti-semtic venom.

Hey Bailey, shouldn’t you be in San Fran or Berkley.

Actually come to think of it, all the anti-Toomey posters are probably kafeyah wearing code pink libtards.

Its so obvious that no one should even need to say it, but calling Toomey a “Neocon”, is simply rehashing the old “zionist lobby” argument.

Wait, don’t tell me….its true, right? The zionsist do control everything. They’re over here (the terrorists) because we’re over there right.

Good luck Sestak. With followers like these you will join the unelectable pantheon of Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, and Cythia McKinney.

nothing antisemetic about holding the nation of Israel accountable for their actions. isn’t that the last refuge for Israel apologists, call anyone that holds them accountable an anti-semite?

Hey, “Vet,” shouldn’t you be in Israel blowing up Palestinian children?

Lay off Bailey unless you have something to contribute other than Rush’s lameass jokes. Nobody here is impressed by your ignorance and blind allegiance to the United States of AIPAC.

By the way, the IDF did not commit piracy, Bruce. State sponsored commandeering of a vessel on the high seas is a war crime, not piracy. Please don’t conflate my beloved Pirates with these genocidal criminals.

For anyone that’s interested, here’s a photo the high tech weaponry the flotilla armed themselves with courtesy of the IDF’s own blog:

http://idfspokesperson.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/10.jpg

Ax handles, kitchen knives, and wrenches. Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight! I hope they had some champion javeliners if they were planning on bringing down a Blackhawk with an ax handle.

Ron Paul has been reelected several times

Any near-unqualified support a candidate voices for Israel is posturing. People who’ve spent time with aid agencies in the regions will tell you that most of these convoys contain weapons as well as high-need materials, so any attempt to paint one side as good and the other as evil hugely misses the factual mark.

Criticizing the Israeli government is not anti-semitic or unpatriotic, although such actions probably will not accomplish very much in terms of influencing the perceptions of the Israeli electorate.

Someone should remind Congressman Toomey that he is running for the United States Senate, which convenes in Washington DC, not in Tel Aviv.

You all prove my point.

Most of the posts have been pretty civil and reasoned, but then Israel is discussed, and out come the flaming spears.

No fricking kidding Ron Paul is a Congressman shmuckyboy (or girl, whoever you are), he’s run for president how many times, and is unelectable. Realize his district is the island of misfit toys. It happens.

Healy, you got me there! I said criticism of Isreal is Anti-Semitic, and I’ve outed myself as an “apologist”.

Well, right back at ya, anyone who calls someone an “Israel apologist” for calling someone else anti-semitic IS anti-semitic.

So damn predictable, all of you isolationsit, terrorist loving pansies.

The Palestinians are human beings, deserving of dignity. I agree. But they live in a morbid death cult, and through every act of terrorism over the past forty years, they have forfeited the right to be heard.

Many people say Ron Paul is a racist. Well, I guess its possible to produce literature and newsletters talking about how blacks are disproportionately involved in crime, particularly against white folks, and not be a racist. I guess its possible to point out how the Rodney King riots only ended when “the blacks had to pick up their welfare checks”, and not be a bigot.

I hope all of the same whacky Ron Paul isolationist, pencil-necks come out in droves for Sestak in November.

Please, campaign for Sestak with your pro-Hamas views loud and clear, and see how far that gets you in PA, where the majority of folks are patriotic Americans and not effete cool-aid drinkers.

Man, Kevin, the “United States of AIPAC”!? Could I have walked you into that any better? It’s like fishing in a barrel with you turds. Why are you folks such and easy mark?

Moron say wha?

I’m still waiting for Israel to be held accountable for their use of US cluster bombs against Lebanon and for the US to stop selling them such weapons.

“I’m still waiting for Israel to be held accountable for their use of US cluster bombs against Lebanon and for the US to stop selling them such weapons.”

Sounds a lot like “wha” to me.

Diono, here’s a li’l secret: other countries in the world do really really bad things, much worse than Israel. Gruesome torture, mass murders, genocide ( I mean real killing machine gunning thousands of civilians and hacking them to peices with machetes), sexual tortures and mass rapes…..but no one seems to care. Its all about Israel.

Accountable for cluster bombs? Sure.

The US uses them too, should we be held accountable?

Oh, wait, I forgot. I’m dealing with the hate-America first crowd. So the answer would be “yes”.

I can’t stand bigots and racists, but I swear, the liberal “poor oppressed Palestinian” spouting left-wing, “health-care is a right” believing whack-jobs are a close second.

Do you realize you are ruining our country.

Nothing Mr. Toomey says on this or any other issue will have any effect on the Jewish vote in Pennsylvania , 80% of which will go to Sestak , the Democrat candidate , as it almost always does .

A some of neocons actually believe that Israel should pick up as much ground as they can. So they can have a big ruinous war leaving a lot of people dead. So that the survivors will convert to the Christan beliefs.

Custer Bombs just as any other weapon can be miss used if it’s carnage it’s wrong.

One things for sure nothing is clear with either side They both claim the land they both blame each other.
And actually we shouldn’t have to just pick a SIDE just to say we picked one. Their are Arab Israeli citizens. And one confusing fact Hamas is not just all military they do serve as a Govt.hey they did win a election a few years back.

Vet-
Actually, the US should not use cluster bombs either and they should banned internationally. They often victimize civilians, especially children, more than combatants. Same for land-mines that don’t deactivate/expire.
If you want to have a war, then stand there and confront your enemy face-to-face. Don’t leave little “presents” that kill innocents after you are gone.

Both sides in war routinely commit war crimes, but the “winners” or more powerful rarely pay for theirs.
You fake patriots wrap yourself in an American (or Israeli) flag, claim you are fighting for noble, honorable, etc. motives. But then you applaud the indiscriminately killing of innocent civilians from afar with gunship helicopter, or napalm, while complaining about a penniless fighter strapping explosives to himself as his only option.
We built a million dollar tank that can kill from afar and crush up close, but can be taken out with $100 worth of explosives and a cell phone.
We lost 3,000 people in 9/11 nine years ago (average 333 per year), and thousands of more US lives, a trillion dollars, and hundreds of thousands of non-US live. We lose 6,000 people a year to drunk drivers and it’s filler story on the holidays.

If the concentrated US military with satellites, aircraft bombers, drones, tanks, ships, submarines, and a trillion dollars can’t subdue couple of countries with 1/10 our population…. how are they a “mortal threat” to us?
Less than two dozen guys with box cutters hijacked 4 planes nine years ago and killed 3,000 people (one thousandth of 1% of our population).

There will always be at least two-dozen guys willing to die to kill us. In the meantime, we have wasted lives, money and resources fighting the wrong battles. A trillion in health care would save more people that Bin Laden could kill.

Hate to clue people in, but despite the strong Jewish political forces in this country, the reason we are so close with Israel is that we need an ally and strategic base of operations to keep/guard the oil.
If tomorrow we found large, easily accessible oil reserves in the US and at the same time the oil wells in the Mid-East suddenly went dry, Israel would become like an ex-lover we avoid at parties. They’d be up the creek without a paddle. Any plight they had would get treated with same disregard we showed to the tragedies in Rwanda and Somalia.
Being partners with Israel is in our military/strategic interests. If we can put a happy “solidarity” face on it, that just makes it easier to sell to those that care about Israel and are idealistically unaware of the US’s prime motivations.

BTW, no one on this blog is going to solve the Mid-East problem unless they have a substitute or new source for oil. (And if we no longer need the mid-east oil, the unfortunate “solution” will be Israel not getting outside help.)
Since, the oil is likely to still be flowing for decades, expect the situation to continue.

In the meantime, people like me will still ask the US (and our allies, like Israel) to hold themselves to a higher standard.

David Lewis-
As for the land they claim, it’s not even the sweaty armpit of the world, it’s more like the blistering crotch. It’s like Vegas without the gambling and erotic girls. It might have been fertile 3,000 to 5,000 years ago, and a major trade-route to the Orient, but it’s a f*cking desert now.

Unfortunately, it’s the epicenter of many of the world’s top false religions. Everyone, not interested in the oil, thinks they can “own a piece of God” by controlling Jerusalem.

Just give it to Disney and have them turn it into a religious theme park instead of an excuse for killing people “in God’s name”.

The universe extends 13 billion light years in very direction with uncounted galaxies each containing hundreds of billions of stars. How dumb does someone have to be to believe that a deity powerful enough to create all of that needs any of us killing each other over one city on this one planet?

I’m Joe Sestak, that’s right Joe Sestak

I love — really, really love — how this guy Vet comes charging in here ready to take on all comers armed with just his magic name-calling machine and a bunch of non sequiturs. He is such a brave fellow. Maybe next time he visits he could actually bring more…like maybe some substance?

Vet is nearly as brave as Beth Hegedus, who yesterday decided she would try to smear Patrick Murphy by posting pictures of aborted fetuses as her contribution to the site.

It’s become such a pleasant place, hasn’t it?

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@ Diano,

That last post was awesome! Who, in their right mind, would want that land, let alone be crazy enough to fight for it.

Toomey, like ever other aspiring or sitting Congressman is scared to death of speaking out against Israel. The last thing they want is a filthy bunch of AIPAC animals going to door to door in their district or state or airing slanderous ads on television. Toomey was, is, and always will be a lap dog to AIPAC.

It is unfathomable that the United States would believe and support a narrative put out by the IDF claiming that their naval storm troopers were viciously attacked and in an act of self defense killed nine people. All of this in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. Those nine people would have been murdered regardless of whether or not they tried to defend themselves with chairs.

The larger problem for the people of the United States is Israel’s continued rogue behavior against its neighbors. Eventually the day will come when the actions of Israel are so egregious that their neighbors will respond with equal or greater force. Israel, throughout its 6 plus decades of history has never had the ability to fight a sustained conflict. If Israel and a neighbor or group of neighbors end up in a sustained conflict the Israelis will come begging for Washington’s help and because of AIPAC the people of this country will have no choice but to come to their aid. That is an irresponsible foreign policy on the part of the United States. It has been perpetuated for the past 6 decades by Democrats and Republicans, on the Hill, and in the White House. It must stop.

Apparently Sestak, like David Diano, is now an anti-semite. Interesting. Sad to see how many bigots live in this once fine state.

Toomey is an anti-person…he is part of the Club for Growth and a teabagger…he is voicing support for Israel here because his pollsters and advisers told him to…they are trying to drive a wedge. Most pro-Israel voters know, however, that Toomey is not with them on just about every other issue. All he is doing is trying to work numbers. Karl Rove politics at its worst. If he were in the Senate and he believed it would further some Club for Growth Agenda, he’d leave Israel out to Dry with the rest of the middle class.

My concern is that Toomey jumped into this incident to pander to a politcal bloc. His press release is just a string of poll tested talking points and adds nothing to the issues.
Toomy’s respose is not about the facts of the incident as no one on this blog or the public at large knows what really happened.
Israel deservices to live in peace as do its neighbors but this neverending death spiral just breeds multigenerational hatreds

Tom-
I don’t have a problem with Israel acting in self-defense. However, in recent years it’s become clear that in too many instances they engage in unnecessary, and indiscriminate killing and merely call it self-defense. The problem is that Israel has the wrong leadership and the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld mentality.

J-Street has more sane approaches to these issues than AIPAC, and I’d hardly call J-Street anti-Semitic. Since when is it okay to criticize the actions of my own government, but unacceptable to criticize another country, like Israel for it’s bad behavior?

If the Israelis are not going to adhere to reasonable rules of engagement, then the US should not supply them with weapons. It’s actually very simple.

Diano,

I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but there is no oil in Israel. And my understanding is that israel isn’t terribly popular in the countries that do have oil. And to my knowledge there is no significant mass of American troops stationed in Israel, either. Which means your wacky theory of Israel as surrogate guardian of americas oil supply is totally and completely nonsensical.

I’m a supporter if Israel because they’re a liberal democracy in a cesspool of totalitarian dictatorships and evil theocracies. Is it because of a dark oil strategy or some sort of zany religious motivation to start a war or something? No.

But man… Between the oil conspiracies, the American slaughter Of innocents with cluster bombs, the crazy “neocon” and aipac talk… I can only wonder if you realize what a parody of yourselves the anti israel and anti American left has become.

Cesspool of totalitarian dictatorships? Iraq is a democracy,the bush admin pushed for elections in Palastine,and look what we got Hamas in Gaza and the Plo in the west bank, blame him for not doing the hard work first,and developing some system of govt. Egypt is a democracy, Lebanon is a democracy, sort of hard to complain about the peoples choices in those nations,when your hero bush pushed for those elections too. Don’t forget the big smoocharoos he liked to plant on his Saudi prince friends,the same folks who financed the perps of 9/11. Israel isn’t much more of a democracy than those countries that surround it.

Tony-
No oil in Israel? No shit.
I made it clear that Israel serves as a strategic forward base and military ally in the region. Remove the oil from the surrounding region, and Israel becomes very unimportant to US international strategy. There are plenty of dictatorships around the world that the US turns a blind-eye to, because they aren’t sitting on oil.
The main reason we care about the “cesspool of totalitarian dictatorships”, is because they aren’t friendly to us and have oil we want. Though, the US kisses the asses of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, who don’t live up to our human rights ideals.
We’ve helped install dictators in the past, as long as they delivered cheap resources to us.
Israel could easily become a religious theocracy and the AIPAC crowd would applaud it.

Guys – Vet is a troll – he’s being obnoxious to get a rise out of you. Someone that stupid probably couldn’t operate a computer. He’s sitting in his mother’s basement laughing his ass off about how upset you guys are getting.

And even if he is serious, he should still be ignored like a troll, because someone that stupid doesn’t deserve to be a part of civil discourse.

Yitzaak,

Sitting in my mom’s basement laughing my ass off, huh?

Try again, babe o’ the woods.

See I don’t think that people who blow themselves up in crowded market-places and bus stops “deserve to be a part of civil discourse.”

Truth is difficult, especially for the myopic liberal, left wing freakazoids of this world.

Let me see, you’re twenty something, and you don’t shave often, maybe every three to four days and you’re very tech savy. You’re in touch with your feminine side, and you like to have a brew and watch some crappy local band on weekends.

You wear black-framed glasses and you have the nerdy-chic look down.

The youth of today, ladies and gentlemen!

God save us……..

David Diano, Expert in Military Weapons and Strategy.

Your eminence:

Will you be teaching any classes on “strategic forward military bases”, or “rules of engagement” at any institutions of higher learning any time soon? If so, please let me know. Admission price too! I thirst for knowledge, and you Sir are a fountainhead!

I am so humbled in the presence of such an esteemed senior military analyst.

Diano with his tin foil hat could probably do a better job crafting war strategy than the top brass at the Pentagon. Morons one and all. Military spending will bankrupt this country while executives from military contractors grow rich.

TB-
Thanks?? for the vote of confidence.

SeaBee-
You are all wet.

Do you deny that the US is not merely interested in the oil in the Mid East, but rather that it drives the major policy decisions?

Do you deny that Israel is the key military ally in the region?

As for Gaza, how about if the US Navy brings some much needed humanitarian aid to Gaza and see if Israel tries raiding one of our ships?

Sestak is a stealth Ron Paul extreme left wing/libertarian, isolationist shape-shifter.

If he wins, he will probably hire his family for all of the plum jobs, and pay his staff less that minimum wage.

There was also some suggestion by bloggres on this site that he was “under federal investigation”, what ever became of that?

Diona, here’s an even better idea, how about the US invades Canada, and the Vatican joins the war on Canada’s side. What then?

More plausible than your hypo.

Anyway, I guess the unshaven, twenty-something, latte crowd moved on to another topic.

Too bad, I’ll miss them and their intellect and sensitivity.

Gotta love the anti-Israel emotards.