OK, see let’s see if we have this straight; you’re against:

– no pre-existing conditions
– covering kids on parents plans until age 26
– no lifetime maximums
– guaranteed coverage after layoffs
– enforced spending by insurers on medical costs instead of executive bonuses
– reduced health-care deficits after 10 years

And you’re going to sell that to the public by telling them there are too many pages in the bill?

Good luck buddy. Once the public sees through the line of BS scare-mongering propaganda that teabaggers are trying to sell, you will realize you are on the wrong side of this issue. As usual.

Hi Bruce, How about this BS since I work in the industry and have for 23 years. Doctors will retire and there will be a shortage, abortions will be paid for, illlegal immigrants will be covered, many private hospitals will close on pure principal of abortion(see Catholic hospitals) It is such a great policy the lawmakers and top aides are EXEMPT! why would they do that if it were so good. Healthcare premiums which people wanted to get lowered are actually going to go up an average of 21 percent. Student loans can only be given by the government now how is that healthcare. On top of all this the CBO just revamped their numbers to a 2.3 trillion deficit over the ten years. Bruce reading is a skill but then again when your reading a McDonalds cash register I guess the only thing you need to read is would you like fries with that. Its amazing people like yourself think you can add 30 million people to haveing healthcare yet we will reduce the deficit now theres is some common sense.

Michael-
Is it PelosiCare or ObamaCare (used to be HillaryCare)?

I guess the GOP is care-less.

Ed “spin”-dle-
Doctors always retire, but they get replaced by new ones. The GOP was making claims like this over 40 years ago about Medicare.
I’d like to see my tax dollars going for more abortions, but unfortunately, this bill prevents that. If the Catholic hospitals want to close up, they can re-purpose them as museums for cover up of priests abusing children.

You have no basis for your made-up number of 21 percent increase in health insurance premiums (though that would be half of the increases some insurers tried to put through recently).

Fixing the problem with Student loans and cutting out the middle man had nothing to do with health care, but it was a good idea that was long overdue.

You fail to realize that many of these 30 million people CAN and WILL pay health insurance premiums. Many were dropped from the insurance rolls, but now can return. Also, we’ve been paying a premium in taxes for the uninsured who go to hospital emergency rooms with preventable problems (if they had insurance and regular checkups). And in some cases, the rich might pay a little more to pick up the slack, since they’ve spend years paying 15% while the rest of paid twice as much.

What the CBO estimate didn’t include (because the rules didn’t allow them to include it) are the hundreds of billions in indirect savings from healthier workers, more productivity, few sick days, etc.

Did you guys realize nonrepublicans still like Obama and decide to rebrand?

What exactly is attrocious about making sure kids with asthma don’t get dropped? How about letting students stay on their parents plans while finishing up their masters? Weren’t you guys advocating a more educated populous? On second thought, probably not since the most educated citizens tend to vote democratic.

David Diano: Your first point about doctors not leaving and Medicare is ironic… in fact the ratio of primary care physicians to people in the country has continuously declined over the past several decades, with analysts blaming monetary incentives for their absence.

Are you going on the record now and saying that you’re actually pro-abortion, and not just pro-choice? How many more abortions would you like to see, and why?

He does have a basis for his 21% figure (I don’t know where he got that one). CNN has reported that premiums are expected to be 17% higher for young people than they otherwise would be as a result of this bill. That’s not 21 nor for everyone, but it’s a figure that has received attention.

You have a point with the student loan comment, though they’re not really handling it the proper way… and it certainly should not have gone through as a part of the Health Care Reconciliation package (though ironically, that’s a more legitimate topic to go through the Reconciliation process).

Your comment about the uninsured joining the rolls is way off, however. The CBO says that half the additions, 16 million people, will be insured through Medicaid. Most of the rest will receive a subsidy from the government paid for by the wealthy, who receive no direct benefits whatsoever yet foot the bill. If they could afford insurance, then they’d get it now (trust me, I’d love to be insured… but I can’t afford it). Your assumption that many people will pay for their insurance is more than just flawed, it’s dead wrong (pending one’s definition of “many”).

And to Bruce Bailey and Isaac L: Stop putting words into people’s mouths. You know what Republicans are complaining about in this bill and it’s not the bi-partisan agreed upon issues that you keep bringing up.

Abortions I still hope for: Sean Hanity, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, etc.

I’m fine with my tax dollars helping women get abortions. I’d much rather they got treatment at a well-funded and safe medical facilities, with insurance support so they can afford quantity care. But, in the new law, abortions will be funded by premiums.

“paid for by the wealthy, who receive no direct benefits whatsoever yet foot the bill.”
What direct benefit do I get from paying a higher % of taxes than the wealthy? What benefit did I get from the US
invading a country that didn’t attack us on 9/11?
Spending this money on health care is better than spending it on bombs.
As for the students, I highly doubt you will such a rise, since this is a very low risk group compared to older Americans. So, it should dilute the risk in the pool.