So Anonymous and GOP_Gal, I guess y’all should do your homework and figure it out. How many of the meet the candidate events have you attended? That should tell the tale. What’s wrong? Are y’all afraid of not being invited to visit the Congressman in DC? The people supporting Clayton are sincere individuals who are SOOO SICK of the government. Kelly will be more of the same. The job calls for lots of backbone………..It looks like Kathy is going to be on her way to another victory….Basically you people do HATE TO HAVE YOUR CANDIDATE CHALLENGED..OH WELL!

From what I perceive, no one should be running against Mr. Kelly in the Butler area. I think that for a while yet this country is free. To the Kelly fans, you are as angry as the Grabb fans. Maybe we should all decide to vote for Paul Huber.
Maybe as a nouveau Republican he’ll try and do a better job. Then again, maybe not. Why don’t we try the “new kid in town” approach and vote for Grabb. Sounds like a plan.

There is more to leadership than just being on some council and pretending to be “for the people” when in fact behind closed doors they just go along with whatever everyone else says. Leadership is a person’s character and what they stand for, and doing the “right” thing even when it’s not popular among the “good-old-boys” at the table. Also, sometimes when someone does something nice for someone it isn’t always because they are that nice…maybe a tax write-off? What is so great happening in Butler by our council? We have a run down town because we have narrow-minded people running it, spending our money foolishly and you will have the same in Washington if you put in more of the same. Definition of insanity: Doing the “same” thing and expecting different results!

Yet again no response on Clayton Grabb’s qualifications to lead or what he’s done…just vote for him. That makes a lot of sense. What is the rationale…why is he better? What has he done? Fine, you can rip on Kelly for his community service work but what has Grabb ever done? I would take something over NOTHING. The question remains to be answered: WHAT ARE GRABB’S QUALIFICATIONS? You Grabb supporters have no back-up. Unbelievably vapid.

it sounds like the only winners in this campaign will be Troy Allen or Tom Henry if some of the supporters for Kelly don’t soften some ,Its okay to have your support for a canidate but lets not get mean.But maybe kelly don’t need his dealership doing a lot of business.

Not necessarily in defense of Mike Kelly, but in regards to Mike Kelly voting for Linda Schoettker awhile ago — I can assure you that that was NOT because of her politics, but being friendly (her daughter worked for the dealership at the time).
But, having known Mike Kelly, I can also tell you I would not vote for him, he’s phony.

OK Anonymous, What great education, etc. did Lincoln have or what did he do. There is more to being a good leader than having donated money or having been on city council, etc. Maybe its in the character of a person. Their values and beliefs are extremely important. Perhaps honor and integrity are good words also. Mr. Kelly may be a “nice guy”, but what does that mean? Did his time on the school board help get his wife a teaching job? There were many qualified applicants.By the way, she really did need the job didn’t she? If this happens in Butler, what perks will he give out in Congress that shouldn’t be given out? Belief in a person goes a long way.
We GRABB supporters are the furthest thing from vapid.

Kelly is the Republican candidate for only one reason…………..

GOOD NAME RECOGNITION!!!!!!!!!

They really didn’t think about anything else.

HE IS NOT THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB…..

LOL @ “Zip”! Is that a synonym for “nada”, “zilch” or “zero”? It does appear that way. I’m laughing even harder at the (lame) attempted insult of calling me a “runt”. Why so angry, Grasshopper?

And J…please show where Mike Kelly is a phony. I’ll be waiting for that.

As has been asked by Anonymous and Fannie & Fredie: what qualifications does grabb have to make him the best candidate? What has he personally done for the community? Anything? Anything at all?

And, those of you perpetrating the lie that Mike Kelly did not pay for his business, why don’t you go to the courthouse and pull the public documents on him (Like Huber’s camp did) and see for yourselves that yes, he did pay for his business and is continuing to do so to this day?

All the hate being spewed by the grabb supporters is astounding. It shows fear more than anything else. I asked before and will ask again: why the attacks against Mike kelly? Does he really scare you that much? There are four other candidates in this primary other than Kelly and grabb. Do you not take them seriously? Why is that?

Tsk-tsk-tsk kiddies….didn’t you ever learn that the first one who loses their cool (and flips out) has already lost the argument before it’s even started? That’s why I find you to be entertaining…all this frothing and e-screaming is enormously laughable.

Also…a little FYI for those of you bent on spreading lies…there have been a number of cases of internet slander and defamation that have been successfully prosecuted. You should really think twice about your attempts to lie about and smear the name of a good man before doing so.

Sniff-sniff…I detect the strong scent of “Gerry” permeating this board….ewwwwww.

Enjoy your hate, it’s all you have.

@ gop gal why are you taking these blogs soooooo personal is it maybe you are big in the republican party and are responsible for hand picking a canidate and introducing him at a canidate night as our canidate, when it is totally not acceptable for the gop to support any canidate in the primaries.is there a smell of odor brewing

Everyone campaigning for their candidate is going to go to bat for that person — and will truly believe that their candidate is the best person for the job. Let’s not forget our common goal as the republican party………get back to ‘smaller government’, get back to what our forefathers fought for, get back to ‘we the people’, get back our liberty and freedoms. We need to pull back the reins on the liberals that have control of our government and get some true conservatives in there. We need to put God back into the White House and we need someone in there who is actually going to listen to the people – and not just those who have memberships at country clubs.

And it goes on… Grabb supporters still haven’t said why their candidate should be elected. Not one word about his experience in the military or in business that would qualify him to lead. I guess you just have to slander the other guy enough to distract from Grabb’s inexperience.
Lincoln, by the way, lived at a time when there wasn’t even a public education system, so following your logic the standard of accomplishment then is a log cabin autodidact.
I was amused by Grabb’s release on campaign finance and allusion to Lincoln. As if Grabb, wouldn’t take a check for $150,000 and immediately make a commercial. You know, if you guys really believe in him then start writing checks and get his name out there or better yet, Clayton surely has money saved up, perhaps he should dip into his savings. It is all about putting your money where your mouth is.
Vapid you all are and vapid is what you will continue to be until you utter some sense about Grabb’s qualifications and why anyone should vote for him.

Anonymous,

They can’t answer your questions, obviously. All they can do is attack those who disagree with them. It’s the tactics employed by those who have nothing else.

They don’t understand that their hate campaign only makes them and grabb look bad, not the other guy.

No, I do not take the other candidates seriously. If you saw them on T.V. you would see why. The one woman on there was a joke, and an embarrassment to anyone with a college degree. She kept repeating how she was more educated than any one else there and yet when she opened her mouth she came across as socially retarded without a lick of common sense or a connection with people! I was embarrassed for her.

Look, Mike Kelly is going to win because he will get market penetration through TV and years and years of advertising. He’s also the most experienced and most involved in the community (even if you think his invovlvement was somehow malevolent). There is no way around it.
Paul Huber is destroying himself by putting himself on TV. He sounds effeminate…good luck with that persona in our neck of the woods.

@ anonymous why do you keep saying our community do you have a clue that the 3rd district is a very large area.and Paul Huber has a very good commercial on tv and he is a very experienced person, some how you seem to think it is only butler and the football of butler that is important to the voters of the 3rd district.anonymous it sounds like you had a hand in picking a person because of a name

well I had a very successful day today all went well…..

Are you kidding me? Paul Huber’s commercial is horrible. It doesn’t even make any sense; he starts by talking about DC being out of control and then jumps to jobs here, jobs now without any linkage. He speaks so softly and leaves such a meager message…it is nothing short of lame.

Anonymous — are you sure you aren’t a democrat? hahahahaha!

For GOP Gal and Anonymous—-
Your candidate truly “LOST HIS COOL” first at the meet the candidate night. and Anonymou–I would certainly be careful about using the word effeminate. Could offend lots of people don’t you think. Talk about bias…You two should do comedy television.
Oh, about the commercials being stupid. Who really cares if Mike Kelly went to Notre Dame?
How many years ago would that be. Get a grip!

Barney, You said it all! Right on target.
Does anyone not have a problem with the KELLY CONFLICT. Such as “cash for Clunkers.” His picture with fists full of money located on 422 says it all.

And it goes on…still nothing about Clayton Grabb’s experience or why anyone should vote for him. Where did Clayton go to school, what did he ever do, what are his accomplishments?
Your silence says it all…and you just get angrier and angrier. Why? Because you have no argument, just invective.
I am happy to keep responding for the fun of watching you get upset, but the truth is maybe a handful of people read these comments and the comments are of no consequence. Yet, it is amusing to see one person try to comment as three. Perhaps you should change your style a bit to seem more convincing.

Huber is coming to take you away ANONYMOUS….
You’re right Barney, maybe Anonymous is a Democrat.
And so the end of a wonderful saga.
It’s time to campaign……..
The sun’s shining and no, I’m not mad
The right to Vote should make you glad
Experience might be good, but
It depends on what kind
Sometime it’s more important
As to what’s in the persons mind!

Hardly not a poet, but get to work I must.
People to see and votes to gather………
I will have a GOOD DAY!!!!

And the beat goes on…

Just more angry attacks and attempted smearing, yet nothing substantial.

Why the angry rhetoric?

You don’t see us attacking your candidate, only merely asking what credentials and accomplishments make him the best candidate for the office.

Anonymous is right: it is amusing to watch the same person try to pose as a number of posters.

As entertaining as this is, it only serves to give attention to those so desperately yearning for it…those who do not understand how they are being used by both their candidate and Huber.

I refuse to further enable the hatred and nastiness some of you seem so fixated on putting gout there.

As the wife of Clayton Grabb, I could go on and on about his involvement in numerous community activities; however, I will not be involved in this banter. Let me just say – Clayton has a college degree – LaRoche College (read the website), What did he ever do?? Just to name ONE (once again, read the website) Clayton is a Mason and most importantly – a SHRINER …..and yes, a Shriner Clown (BB) which he has been actively involved in for over 10 years. Over 25 events each year (only 52 weeks in a year)out in many areas of Pittsburgh raising money for all the Shriners hospitals. This is just ONE of the MANY ~~~
And last but not least, why should people vote for him …..He has passion, integrity and the desire for greatness in his country. He is a common man like MANY people within the 3rd District. He feels a calling from God to do what’s right and stand up for the Constitution. He would not embarass himself, his name, his parents or family …..he would represent himself and fight for what is right.
Now …..enough reindeer games – do you require anything further??? Please feel free to contact me at cindy@grabbforcongress.com should you need anything further.
THANK YOU to all the GRABB FOR CONGRESS supporters …..our family is humbled and please continue to pass the word along ~~
#1 ON THE BALLOT – Grabb for Freedom, Grabb for Liberty, GRABB FOR CONGRESS
To all – enjoy your day ~~

GOP_Gal

Apr 20th, 2010

LOL @ “Zip”! Is that a synonym for “nada”, “zilch” or “zero”? It does appear that way. I’m laughing even harder at the (lame) attempted insult of calling me a “runt”. Why so angry, Grasshopper?

And J…please show where Mike Kelly is a phony. I’ll be waiting for that.

to answer “GOP_Gal” — if you’ve known him long enough like I have — it’s clear what he is…he may nice, etc. … but phony is the underlying theme here. One small example recently is: look at his commercial — I know it’s a long time ago, but he’s putting out there that he was an “All State” player at BHS, well, I’ve followed Butler football for a long, long time, from the glory days of Terry Hanratty, the Saul twins, the Kelly brothers, and it’s evolvement to it’s current sad state … and being a little older than him in school I can assure you that that is not true – him being an “All State” player, he was good, but he was “All Section”, not “All State” … not a big deal, but just saying — he tried to slip that little exaggeration in there. Also, to whoever commented on the advertising with the “fists full of money” — I agree, I don’t know who does the advertising for the dealership, but it’s bad, it makes him look foolish and greedy.

Still nothing about Clayton’s time in the military or his business experience and why it would qualify him to be the leader we need. Perhaps Cindy would care to elaborate, since Clayton keeps emphasizing his military experience.
It just goes on and on without any example of his leadership in action in any context. We keep hearing about how Clayton believes such and such and is such and such a great person. Well, I know a lot of people like that, and we are lucky to have people like that, BUT that doesn’t mean they should run for Congress unless of course God told you to.
So, I guess if you think God has tapped you to run for Congress, and I’m not sure how Clayton can discern God’s will given he has no experience for the post or anything analagous, then Clayton and his followers are lost in some sort of self-defined calling (certainly not God’s, we’re not talking about Joan of Arc). Good luck convincing people on that count. Put up a bumper sticker: “Vote for Clayton, God’s Choice” Not everyone has to wear their faith or patriotism on their sleeve. The dignified candidates resist the temptation to fein humility and then claim themselves war heroes and the elect.

The Kelly brothers? Huh, Bob was ok, but Mike was much better.

I beg to differ – I think everyone in this great country should be proud of their faith and patriotism. “In God We Trust” – “God Bless America” sound familiar?? I find it admirable that Clayton feels God put him here at this time for this purpose. “If not me, who? If not now, when?” These remarks from Clayton at a recent forum hit me hard. I feel that he is in this race for the right reasons and truly wants to make a difference for his family, friends, neighbors and all the others in the district. I also think that Martha Moore & Ed Franz have the same desire to make a difference. I don’t get that feeling from Steve Fisher. In fact Steve leaves me feeling empty and hopeless. Then there is Huber. Sorry, but I cannot get the fact that he was a Democrat for years out of my mind. Maybe it is because I felt so betrayed by Specter – I just cannot seem to think of them independently. I am not willing to take that chance. He (Huber) may be in the race for the right reasons but I can’t, and won’t, take the chance on him this time. And all his advertising that he is a “conservative republican” makes me ill. I know that he has hired an expensive advertising firm (see his FEC filings that are available to the public) but I throw all his flyers away and have yet to sit through his commercial. (I actually don’t watch any political TV ads because they are so misleading.) I just don’t trust him. Then there is Mike Kelly. The party machine’s answer to defeat Dahlkemper. Well thanks to Mike I know why he is in the race. Just check out the article he posted on his FB page. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100322/RETAIL07/303229958 In the article from Automotive News it states, “He began thinking seriously about a run last August. Worried about slow cash-for-clunkers reimbursements, Kelly said he had trouble getting help from his U.S. representative’s office. “What frustrated me most of all was the lack of understanding of how important cash is to our business,” said Kelly. It states that the turning point for Mike Kelly came when he was informed that his Chevrolet business would survive but that GM intended to dump Kelly’s Cadillac store come 2010 – under the Government Bailouts of the Automotive Industry. It seems his dealership received over $625,000 from the program. (see article: http://online.worldmag.com/2010/04/05/clunker-candidates-for-congress/. I feel he is in the race for the wrong reasons and his contributions to Democratic campaigns only makes me more concerned than I was before. I am sure the RCC picked Kelly because of his name recognition and bank account but I think they made a mistake. We really need someone with a passion to make a difference. This country is in some serious turmoil right now. If we keep doing what we’re doing, we will keep getting what we got. It’s time to try something different. A fresh young face with “no backs to scratch” once he gets elected – someone whose only interest is in serving the people in the district. I have been following this campaign for months and my prayers, my support and my vote will be for Clayton Grabb. http://www.grabbforcongress.com

GOP-Gal – You go on and on any say nothing (except how angry we are). We’re not angry, just dedicated to working for the right candidate.

Anonymous – I am now convinced you are a Democrat.
Your obvious disdain for God is the sign of a very brain-washed liberal democrat.

Oh, by the way – you forgot to use your favorite word – vapid. Did you just learn it recently?

Have a great day – Remember, Huber is coming to
take YOU away……………….

I had a very successful day today all went well….

I just decided this is getting boring, soooooo I must say goodbye to my caring pen pals. By the way anonymous – Mr. Kelly said he talked with his family and prayed about running for this office.
I wonder whats wrong with him? Call him and tell him hes on the wrong track according to YOU.
Its been fun!

Tom

Apr 21st, 2010

The Kelly brothers? Huh, Bob was ok, but Mike was much better.

Actually “Tom”, it was Bob who was AP 1st Team All-State, and Parade All-American, while “Mike” was All Section — I would know — I coached in the school district back then, so I don’t know — maybe Mike is confusing himself with his brother’s high school football awards. Bob played at Ohio State, and Mike went to Notre Dame but never played a single down, due to injury.

haha oh well — probably just an honest mistake in the ad, but nonetheless it’s not true that he was high school all-state if we’re being factual.

I have nothing but love for God. I have nothing but disdain for people who believe they were chosen by Him. It must be nice to be so enlightened.
Good luck convincing the voters Clayton is God’s chosen one. I’m sure that will go well with a lot of Christians who don’t believe God is in the business of hand picking legislators. If I am a Dem then I’m doing a pretty good job of getting you all riled up.
It’s easy when your dealing with people who don’t know how to spell or have the capacity for the correct use of grammar. I guess it must be anger getting in the way.

All I know is that Mike got injured and couldn’t play ball and that Bob quit. It speaks volumes.

Tom

Apr 21st, 2010

All I know is that Mike got injured and couldn’t play ball and that Bob quit. It speaks volumes

wow— “Tom” is either clueless, or a path. liar. This isn’t a football debate, but let me set the record straight for you Tom:
Mike was All-Section and got a scholarship to Notre Dame, but never played one down, probably due to injury. Bob, was voted All-Section, All-State, and All-American in high school, got a scholarship to Ohio State, and I remember the Ohio State vs. Michigan game in I think it was 1971, or 72 — Bob was starting at Def. Back. … the first year he was eligible to (back then sophomore year was the first year of eligibility). Bob got injured a year or two later, but didnt quit.
Mike is the one running for office, trying to slip in exxageration, or let’s just call them what they are — lies, and he acts like he was all-star when he never played a down at Notre Dame.
THAT speaks volumes.

DON’T THROW YOUR VOTE AWAY — DEFEAT DAHLKEMPER THE ONLY WAY — BY VOTING HUBER !

Listen, Dahlkemper is strongest near Erie, so geographically-speaking it’s a wasted vote to vote for Kelly, or Grabb, or whoever else. Vote for Huber — he is closer to that area and can actually win more than just the primary.
The only way to beat Dahlkemper is Huber taking her votes in that area!

agreed J.

this Tom is a moron and drinks the kool-aid, youre way off subject Tom and full of it…go troll somewhere else

What speaks volumes is how nuts you are J. Get a life. Anyone who remembers a game as inconsequential as that, that far back must be a loser or not seen many ball games.

Call me a moron all you want. You’re the ones quoting football games from the 70′s. It’s clear you’re angry at Mike and not supporting Clayton by acting so goofy.
This is good for Huber, Linda’s right, please keep it up. He’ll surely do well if you drive a wedge between the two Butler candidates.

Tom—hey, all I’m doing is setting the record straight. Your spewing lies, or clearly biased opinions, whereas I have facts. And, the whole point of my original post was to point out an exaggeration/lie in an ad—which makes you wonder what else a candidate lies about.
As for calling me a “loser” for remembering when Butler football was good — go head and be immature. And “not seen many ball games”, son I’ve forgot more about the game than you’ll ever wish to know. And I dont care if I’m recalling sports facts from 1965, 1975, or 2005, or facts of any kind—I’m just calling you on out on your lies. Anyways, no anger at Mike — you’re the one with anger it looks like, at his brother, who is a great guy, and Mike is a good guy — but, this about Mike who is the one running for office — he’s just too risky an option versus Dalhkemper, Grabb is much more even-keeled if you watched the debate. it’s nothing personal against Mike — I’m probably like you, just don’t want Dahlkemper to win, and I don’t think Mike is the best choice when those two face off. Enough of the name-calling.

okay, yea — back to the actual election which is important.
From now one, can we please focus on this question: WHO IS THE BEST CHOICE IN THE PRIMARY TO DEFEAT DAHLKEMPER.
That is the real issue. It’s obvious everyone on her agrees she needs to go, her and her lockstep Pelosi-like voting.

I think it’s Huber due to geograhical issues. Tell me why or why not Huber is the best choice vs. Dahlkemper

thanks

You know aweful lot for a coach. Seems like you know everything about Mike and Bob and even who Mike employed and who he donated money to and why. That’s pretty awesome fact finding for a retired coach. Too bad there isn’t any truth to it, unless you can explain how it is you know all of this. I guess just hanging out at the dealership. You’re probably one of those bums who pretended to be his friend and took his money and now are just venting. Clearly you are the one being phony. If not, why don’t you tell us when you coached and at least put up your first name.

Huber has no personal strength (charisma). He comes across as a very weak person and technocrat candidate in a blue collar district (he is polar opposite of what’s needed). He is condescending. He sold his business yet touts jobs here, jobs now, after sending jobs overseas when he sold his business with no provision to keep jobs here. If he wanted to keep jobs here, you would think he would have started with his own business.
Dahlkemper will slam him on that and it doesn’t matter how much technical expertise he has. The majority of the base won’t support someone who has no conservative history or history of supporting conservative candidates.
Except for his war chest, and it is considerable, he has no leverage. People don’t identify with him. Look to his fan base on facebook or how many downloads there are of his commercials. There’s no enthusiasm for him. At least with Kelly and Grabb there’s a fight because people think they have something. Nobody even wants to talk about Huber. I think both Kelly and Grabb supporters can at least agree upon that, but maybe I’m wrong.

Is this site a joke? I thought this blog space was to be used to discuss candidates’ positions not their family members and their careers. I don’t care about someone’s brother’s football accomplishments from the 1970s – do you realize how small-minded this site has become due to all of your comments? It is extremely obvious that most of these posts (due to the similar writing styles) are being written by the same person but under different pseudonyms. The funny thing about blogs is that you can write several posts in one evening under different names, why not put your name out there? If you are proud of what you have to say, post your full name and take credit for putting down Moore, Huber, Kelly, Grabb, etc…These are people that are taking time out of their personal lives to improve our country, and most of the people on this site just belittle these candidates by taking personal shots. Get a life.

Charlie, I have to strongly agree with you!! …To be honest this page is quite embarrassing to ALL of the candidates and their family! The sad part is the majority on this blog page probably vary between 30-70 years old.(Grown adults? wow)…. Instead of picking eachother apart and wasting time why dont you people get out there and HELP your candidates! Standup and get out there, Pass important information out, Put signs up, Talk to people explain why your candidate would be the best!!! I mean if you feel so strongly and want one of these candidates to do the job doesnt it make sense to contribute? Get productive, Lend a hand? Let your voice be heard? Get out there and HELP YOUR CANDIDATES!! Maybe even make a difference?!!! Enough with the Blog garbage, Myths and personal attacks on things and issues that are completely irrelevant! A bunch of nonsense… It actually just goes to show that there’s way too much time spent blogging then being positive, productive and pushing these candidates!!!!

Tom – get over it — just pointing out a relevant fact that a candidate in this election exaggerated/lied (perhaps unintentionally in an ad), and I know that for a fact, so I think it’s relevant to point it out. I haven’t seen other candidates ads or heard false advertising. haha why don’t you put your name out there Tom, you see, throw some cheap “drive-by” comments that I know aren’t true

anyways, enough of that, I just really want to see Dalhkemper defeated, and I’m not sure if there’s a candidate viable around here to do that, maybe Grabb, maybe it is Kelly, or Huber — but I think there needs to be another televised debate, where the candidates clearly stand on each issue hasn’t been covered yet to this point

A high school All American football player? Uh, that’s strange because there is no such thing and this is coming from J. supposedly a former high school football coach. Wow, this blog becomes less and less credible by the minute. Maybe you guys should think of a new strategy to get your candidate elected rather than creating lies about others.

To Anonymous — This country needs God back in Washington, in the hearts of those serving in Washington, in our schools, our homes, our businesses, our lives, and apparently in your heart and soul. Like Barney said you MUST be democrat – cause you sure sound like a anti-God, liberal to me.

Jason

Apr 22nd, 2010

“A high school All American football player? Uh, that’s strange because there is no such thing and this is coming from J. supposedly a former high school football coach”

Really, Jason, what was that about no such thing as High School All-American’s, Parade is one organization that does it, and they’ve been doing that since the early 60′s — look at the link:

http://www.parade.com/news/all-america/2010/meet-parades-all-america-high-school-football-team.html

So who’s the credible one? and what’s wrong with having coached as an assistant in high school football and teaching as a profession, it’s a good way to make a living in western PA. Not saying I know everything, but just saying I know my high school football — that’s all

again, back to the real issue

Sue I think you’re right that the country does need God more, in the family, home, classroom — the Progressives have phased out what our country was ffounded upon — Christian principles.