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Hoeffel hypes poll showing him over Corbett in SEPA

Hoeffel hypes poll showing him over Corbett in SEPA

Democrat Joe Hoeffel’s campaign this week is highlighting an internal poll that shows him performing better than gubernatorial rival Dan Onorato in critical southeast Pennsylvania, as he seeks to leverage his name recognition from a previous statewide run into an argument about electability.

His campaign on Tuesday circulated a poll memo for a survey that found him topping state Attorney General Tom Corbett, the likely GOP nominee, by 5 points in the five-county Philadelphia region, 43 percent to 38 percent. The poll memo contrasts that with Onorato’s showing against Corbett; Onorato trails by 12 in that matchup, according to the poll.

About a third of the state’s electorate is the southeast, and about 40 percent of Democratic primary voters reside there. Hoeffel’s campaign said the poll was commissioned by a group of pro-choice women. But considering it was conducted by Lake Research Partners, the pollster for Hoeffel’s campaign, it can effectively be considered an internal poll for Hoeffel. Full cross-tabs for the survey—which polled 400 likely voters in the southeast and had a margin of error of 4.9 percent—were not released, making the full poll difficult to assess.

Hoeffel’s lead over Corbett grows to eight points, according to the poll, when respondents are given positive biographies about both candidates.

Though Onorato currently has little name recognition in the southeast, that is sure to change when his campaign begins advertising on TV—something he has significantly more campaign cash to achieve than his rivals.

Click here to see the poll memo.

Clarification: This article may have left the incorrect impression that the poll was commissioned by the Hoeffel campaign. As the article later stated, it was commissioned by a group of pro-choice women and conducted by Hoeffel’s campaign pollster. But it was not a Hoeffel campaign poll.

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March 17, 2010 at 11:30 am

--Dan Hirschhorn

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  1. WESTPADEM6

    Mar 17th, 2010

    and loses 98-2 in the rest of the state.

  2. David Diano

    Mar 17th, 2010

    I expect Joe to do well in SE PA.

    We need to see a statewide poll that includes Pennsyl-tucky.

  3. Jake

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Seems suspect he wouldn’t also release numbers on Wagner or Williams.

  4. Bruce Bailey

    Mar 17th, 2010

    “…that is sure to change when his campaign begins advertising on TV.”

    Why does Onorato get this benefit-of-the-doubt analysis, yet Sestak — who is in pretty much the same boat in Western PA — doesn’t?

  5. John

    Mar 17th, 2010

    David Diano, we don’t need to constantly read your racist comments about the rest of the state. Your insular views are disturbing and have no place in political discourse. Despite what you believe, there is life outside SEPA, and it’s a a good life. You couldn’t pay me to live in “DelCo” or “MontCo” or whatever other little stupid names you call your counties.

  6. Piper

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Ditto Bruce Bailey. How much money does anyone actually think Onorato’s going to end up spending in SEPA? At the end of the day, even a month’s worth of TV in the most expensive market may not get him the big bump that apparently the PA2010 staff is banking on for Onorato.

  7. David Diano

    Mar 17th, 2010

    John-
    “racist” comments about the rest of the state?

    Should I praise the backwater hicks with more ammo than brains?
    The majority of the state lives in Philly and Pittsburgh areas. That’s where the wealth and revenues are generated that pay for the roads and bridges that connect you to civilization.

    Enjoy living in Butt Crack, PA.

  8. David Diano

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Bruce-
    Onorato would reach more people advertising in SE PA than Sestak would advertising in Western PA. Philly market reaches 40% of the state’s Dems.

    Onorato can afford to p*ss away a few million in Philly, because it will also help in the General, and he’ll still have plenty of money.

    Sestak stated that he will spend “every penny” for the primary, so if he were to prevail, he’d start the General election phase with an empty tank, and Toomey millions ahead. Another “brilliant” Sestak strategy!

    Sestak’s numbers just don’t add up.

  9. Dan Hirschhorn

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Hey Bruce Bailey,

    I see what you’re saying, but I would argue that, while the landscape is surely different, we’ve analyzed Sestak’s campaign cash in a very similar way.

    To see what I mean, check out this blog post I wrote a little while back.

    http://www.pa2010.com/2010/03/some-thoughts-on-sestaks-poll-numbers%E2%80%94and-tv/

    I welcome your feedback.

    Dan Hirschhorn

  10. Bruce Bailey

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Dave, you and I both know that a Sestak-Toomey race would instantly generate netroots cash flow amounting to millions. Add in all of the stakeholders that would be horribly screwed by a Toomey win and the Sestak tank will refill very, very quickly.

    Again – this is a generational, party-defining primary. And the question is very, very basic: do we take orders from the top down, or do we support candidates from the grassroots up? We have been told — ordered, actually — by national and state party bosses to support Specter. That doesn’t sit well with me, or with most rank and file Democrats that I know.

    Yes, I certainly believe that Joe Sestak is the better candidate. But in another respect, it could be my dog Chestnut on the ballot and I’d vote for her over a lifelong Republican I was being told to get behind.

  11. David Diano

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Bruce-
    The Netroots cash won’t be enough to overcome a 3 million lead by Toomey. Sestak won’t be able to refill the tank that quickly (if at all).

    If he does attempt to refill the tank, he will only be draining the tank from the 7th and other critical races.

  12. TB

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Bruce,

    I agree that Specter was foisted upon us. Do you believe Sestak is the better candidate because 1)he is a better alternative to Specter who was foisted upon us after years of beating or 2)flat out because Sestak can win in November?

  13. Anonymous

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Dave – that’s absurd. We’re talking about a US Senate nominee; how on Earth would that “drain the tank from the 7th.” What we’re saying here is that any nominee — including my dog Chestnut — is going to be flooded by motivated donors.

    TB – Both.

  14. Bruce Bailey

    Mar 17th, 2010

    Sorry, that was me above.

  15. StateCommitteeWoman

    Mar 18th, 2010

    Just to set the record straight. I am a long time political activist—backing Arlen Specter. No one-not the Governor-not the Vice-President-not the President-TOLD me or even asked me to support Sen Specter. I and most other members of the State Committee felt that he was the better Candidate to represent the Dem National Platform and win the Election. Cong Sestak, also a fairly new Democrat, a lifelong Independent, should have tried to retain his Congressional seat. No one told or ordered anyone to support Sen Specter. What do you think THEY(the mysterious They plotting against the grassroots)would have done to us for not supporting Sen Specter??? Take away crackers and cheese at the next State Committee Meeting?? In my Heart of Hearts, I’m backing the better person to represent the people of Pa-Sen Arlen Specter. I also do not live in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia or any of the charming bedroom counties and I have to say that David’s discriminatory comments about us are offensive.

  16. David Diano

    Mar 18th, 2010

    Anonymous-
    Sestak does drain a lot of fundraising from other candidates in his district. There’s a limited amount of money people are willing to donate in a cycle. Sestak drains a lot of it from the district, and leaves meager crumbs for the other candidates.

    Don’t forget, Sestak ended his 2008 7th District campaign with $3 million in the bank. The other Dems in his district challenging for GOP seats were struggling for cash. Sestak had ZERO coat tails, despite his margin of victory. Lentz won in 2006 without Sestak’s help. There have been no other ST. Leg gains, or county-wide office wins under Sestak’s “leadership”.

    State Committee Woman-
    Don’t take offense about the rest of PA. I’m just screwing with John. However, the conservative Dems there do hurt the party and need to realize that they are often voting against their own interests.

  17. PJ McGill

    Mar 18th, 2010

    FYI, here is a Democracy for America Poll> Primaries Matter (http://www.primariesmatter.com/election_vote):
    Senate Primary
    Arlen Specter 29%
    Joe Sestak 64%
    Undecided 5%

    Governor Primary
    Jack Wagner 8%
    Joe Hoeffel 39%
    Dan Onorato 13%
    Anthony Williams 2%
    Undecided 35%

    Depending on which candidate one supports, one may argue, if they so wish, the merits of this Poll, or lack there of, but the numbers are what they are, at least of this Poll. I guess the question is, just how reflective of reality are these numbers?

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