these people need to drop pout and support Mike, He is the best and if he thought someone else could win he would not run, but he is the best by far. Lingefelter is not met to be taken seriously.

Two things:

1. Typo-filled article (even the last word in the last sentence violates basic grammar) with incorrect content. The content of the last paragraph is also wrong. None of the candidates said that they would drop out without the party’s endorsement (see open primary debate in 8th district )- rather it was whether they would run if they lost the primary and I do not believe Fitz said he would run if he lost the primary. And this article does not even name one of the candidates.

2. Random, you are wrong my friend. People are on to Fitzpatrick (and Murphy) reinventing himself. While in Congress, Mike supported and was one of the few GOP signatories to the Employee Free Choice Act and he was proud of the earmark spending he brought to Bucks. It’s the old, “I voted for it before I was against it.” Very tiresome. I am predicting an upset over the same old GOP machine in Doyletown.

OK, now it’s time to get the snowblower …

Jones, Carlineo and Hoffman have to decide among themselves who is the most viable, and have only one of them run against Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick voted for or co-sponsored legislation that is unacceptable to conservatives because he wanted to be a “moderate” and an “independent”. He has to face a legitimate challenge, and only by having one opponent, will he be able to able to prove his credentials to voters.

Personality politics are finished. It’s time for principles.

Hoffman was an embarassment last night with the cheap shot he took against Murtha. The crowd cringed. It showed a total lack of class and that this guy doesn’t belong on a stage in front of people.

Change in 2010,

I totally forgot about Hoffman’s swipe at Jack Murtha. The guy’s body isn’t even cold yet and this clown was up there attacking him. My hope is that Ira Hoffman finishes last on May 18th.

NRS

Hey Bucks Voter,

Thanks for pointing out the typos. Our regrets.

But the question about staying in the race was indeed about winning the party endorsement, not the primary as you say. Under state law, a candidate who loses a primary election cannot run as an independent in the general. In other words, there is no Joe Lieberman scenario in Pennsylvania.

Regrets again on the typos.

Dan Hirschhorn
Editor, pa2010.com

To be clear – the question I was asked was – will I support the primary winner? I replied, “if I agree with him (her).” Time permitting I would have like to add ” I do not vote for the lesser of two evils. Also, if the candidate is Fitzpatrick there will be an independent in the General election. The party machine must get behind a ‘Tea Party’ Republican….a real Tea Partier cannot support a moderate to liberal Republican(Fitzpatrick). The party must realize they must cater to the ‘Tea Party’ crowd, not the other way around. Fitzpatrick cannot win against Murphy. If the party wants to win……
Regarding Endorsements: I never let it stand in my way. I did say Fitzpatrick has already been anointed by a ‘party machine’ backed announcement. Formal endorsement is a mere technicality at this point. After all these years in elected office(14)and always endorsed, Fitzpatrick now says open primaries are good. Meanwhile, he has asked candidates (myself 3 times) to endorse him and drop out. He wants an open primary with no
competition….disingenuous at best.
Fitzpatrick is no Scott Brown(Mass.) – he should drop out, as they like to say ‘for the good of the party’.

Tom Lingenfelter Candidate 8th PA
215-230-5330

Tom, thanks for clarifying. I knew that the question was directed to whether the candidate would continue if they lost the primary – and NOT to whether they would quit if they did not get the GOP endorsement prior to the primary.

To Bucks Voter: I only know what I was asked – I do know that some of the questions were different.
The question was not whether I would continue after the primary, but would I support the winner of the primary. My position is and was… maybe.
Dan was right in his answer given the question he answered.
In my discussion with the Candidates…none expressed ending their run if they didn’t get the endorsement, in fact just the opposite.
The endorsement is one question and support after the primary another. Many get it confused.
Confusion(misinformation) is a big weapon of the machine. Give me a call.

Tom Lingenfelter, Candidate 8th PA
215-230-5330

Tom, what is the longest you have went without running for office?

If I recall you lost to Greenwood in the 2002 R primary, then lost to Shrader in the 2004 D primary. I think u also lost the D primary for Controller in 2005 but I could be wrong.

Random(Whoever you are) – You could be…and are wrong. Why don’t you be quiet until you know the facts.
So..my running for office is worse than you not running?
And have I ever said or done anything that was not based on the principles of Freedom?

And, in historic fact, I can say ‘I told you so’ in regard to predicting the present state of the Economy/Country/world. I wish I would have been wrong, but….I told you so. Sorry that you are one I couldn’t educate. I guess you weren’t listening.

Obviously, you thought I was wrong – now that the evidence is in it seems that the political bosses and you have been wrong alot.

Everyone else is waking up and facing the facts – the political parties have met their Waterloo.

I suggest that you and the party have had your heads in some dark place for the past 50 years.
I hope it’s not permanent in your case.

Tom Lingenfelter
215-230-5330

Agreed about Hoffman. I never heard of him before Tues, but his performance was one of the low-lights of the night.

What a jerk.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/02/06/david-frum-a-fight-the-gop-might-want-to-lose.aspx#ixzz0fJU3nYnp

Maybe you conservatives can read another conservative in David Frum and finally see the benefit of health care reform could have to help grow the U.S. economy.

A number of points should be made.

First, regarding Frum, what is conveniently forgotten is that ObamaCare has less to do with medicine than what it would do to destroy essential freedoms.

Second, Mike is an independent thinker and, just as did Curt Schroder [when he spoke to the PACC in West Chester, a few weeks ago, when he recognized he could have been a stronger voice against Bonus-Gate...despite his having been victimized by Perzel], Mike has publicly recanted his support for Earmarks and Card-Check.

Third, other accusations elsewhere having to do with other issues will be formally rectified on his web-site. For example, he has not voted on cap-and-trade and links his ANWAR status to his commitment to open-space in Bucks County. [He will provide a comprehensive energy policy and is concerned that more North Slope drilling would have a negligible effect on energy-reserves...particularly when compared with the off-shore resources.]

[--to be continued--]

Fourth, the straw-poll results last week “tell the tale” as to whether Mike plans to relate AGGRESSIVELY with the Tea Party Movement; he won handily within a highly-critical audience.

Fifth, all of the other candidates presented themselves well, with some limitations. Ira’s neo-isolationism – regarding Iran – was particularly repugnant. Also, Gloria’s gratuitous swipes against Mike were coupled with a lot of self-referntial “I pulled myself up via my bootstraps” commentary. A few days ago, I confronted one of her supporters via e-mail; he/she failed to reply to my line-by-line refutation of her essay [available upon request].

Sixth, Jones was lucid and Tom was…Tom. [We first talked @ the 2008 Leadership Conference, and I have spread copies of the Constitution that he has consistently provided, ever since.] I liked everyone except Ira, for each was quite knowledgable.

[--to be contiued--]

Seventh, it is disingenuous to propose that some sort of coalition be created among those who are opposing Mike. I do not write this as an advocate for Mike, for I initiated my analysis without “a horse in the race.” Rather, the process will sort-out the field without any artificiality; let’s review the alternatives in a month, after submission of petitions.

Eighth, I recently had an opportunity to listen to Mike for an hour-plus, up-close-and-personal. What is emanated…and what other leaders would best try to emulate…is his eyeball-to-eyeball focus on issues and how to convey them with quiet authority and candid sensitivity.

Ninth, on a “macro” level, the Bucks County “dramatis personae” serves as a useful paradigm for the national forces – as Michael Steele noted this-p.m. – influencing the GOP…in a positive fashion. I was a “Perotista” in 1992 [coordinator for Abington/Jenkintosn/Cheltenham] and we all had a great time watching SNL-skits; yet, look @ the outcome and recognize that pragmatism must drive the nomination process.

Tenth, therefore, because Mike is NOT an entrenched incumbent, and because Mike is such a quality-conservative [passing most reasonable "litmus test" criteria, worthy of Reagan's heritage], he should win the Primary.

[--to be continued--]

Summary:

Although I don’t live in the 8th, I would advise that his competitors ponder seeking elective office @ “entry” levels before coveting a federal position. I would eschew Ira because of his blind foreign policy, and I would want to assess a reply to my lengthy e-mail before allowing myself to like Gloria. Jim Jones was both personable and on-point…both privately and publicly…and the GOP should EMBRACE him. Finally, Tom should feel gratified that the Tea Party Movement has enhanced “discovery” of his pet-issues. That he is not “libertarian” [if one were to view a neo-isolationist foreign policy in that context] is a reflection of how deeply he has reflected on the Constitution, over the years. I believe he was @ a Synagogue Debate [north of Doylestown] that I attended in 2008, and I remember he acquitted himself quite well. Thus, just as I view Jim, the GOP would do well to channel his talents/knowledge.

This rich set of alternatives does the GOP proud! [Again, except for Ira.]

I invite critqiue of my perceptions….

Dr. Bob:

I would critique, but I am exhaused from reading your long-winded observations, and now in need of a drink….

Hey everyone,

I have gone back and reviewed the video, and I stand corrected about both Tom and Gloria. A correction has been appended.

We sincerely regret the error.

Dan Hirschhorn

You Guys are right the guys a real ***. How would you like to be his neighbor

How can you take so much money in earmarks when you are in Congress and call yourself a fiscal conservative? Then, when people have an issue with these earmarks he’s suddenly against them. Sounds like Jimmy Swaggart to me. I have sinned and beg your forgiveness. But then he’ll go right back to voting with the other prostitutes again. How are you supposed to trust him when you know how he’s worked in the past?

Fitzpartick is exactly the reason the Republicans are in the fix we’re in now with Murphy. More of Fitzpartick assures another loss to Murphy or if some Democrats change all we get is a RINO who will pander for your vote.