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Dede, Dede, Dede
The withdrawal of Dede Scozzafava from the NY-23 special election deeply concerns me. It’s obvious that a moderate wing of the Republican Party is not possible. Not to start a riot (which I’m sure this wouldn’t), but the idea of a real third party wouldn’t surprise me. If the Republican Party cannot field a viable candidate against a more conservative third-party because they are too “liberal,” the end is near for the liberal Republican.
This is troubling for 2010. Look at Pennsylvania’s 7th District. Pat Meehan is by no means a conservative stalwart. It would really be a shame if some conservative challenger forced him into wasting much-needed cash on a challenge from the right. This is the same reason I have previously spoken out against party-cleansers like Pat Toomey (is it about being Senator, or beating Specter?), and Joe Hoeffel (because there isn’t a real liberal in the race).
Look, I’m not saying that is going to be the story of Meehan’s campaign, but the idea of that New York Independence Party-esqe libertarian-moderate type third-party nationwide wouldn’t shock me.
November 2, 2009 at 2:12 pm













Jon Geeting
Nov 2nd, 2009
Your moron colleague Michael Livingston seems to think the Hoffman surge is just great for the GOP. Of course, if Michael writes it, then you know it’s wrong. Fortunately for Democrats, most Republicans appear eager to learn precisely the wrong lesson from NY-23. It would be an enormous mistake to assume that this scenario, even one where the conservative is a primary challenger instead of a 3rd party candidate, is replicable outside an extremely low-turnout special election. Conservatives appear ready to primary or run independent bids against more electable moderate incumbents in quite a few races next year in districts where a Becktard could never get elected. I’m particularly interested in the case of PA-15, where moderate Charlie Dent first drew his strongest Democratic challenger of any cycle, Bethlehem Mayor John Callahan (who I think is a slight favorite in a D-trending district), and who now must also contend with Jake Towne – a local teabagger and Paultard who has strong standing relationships with a radicalized GOP base in the district – who has mounted an independent bid from the right. Dent was going to have a tough time against Callahan, but if Towne could draw even 1% of the vote, this could become a much easier Democratic pickup. That dynamic is set to play out all over the country, and national Republicans have absolutely no power to stop it. They’ve drawn a shoddy analogy between the netroots’ success in pulling the Democratic party to the left and concluded that it would equally advantage the GOP to be pulled to the right. But the GOP is already entirely captured by a conservative Southern rump. They’re not electable nationally in their current form. The correct analogy for what Republicans need to become a national party again is a less romantic one – Al From, Bill Clinton and the DLC. The DLC platform made Democrats electable during a period of conservative ascendance, so Republicans should be looking at blogs like NewMajority and NextRight for sane ideas of how to weather this period of progressive ascendance.
Greg Murphy
Nov 8th, 2009
Why is it that candidates who tend toward traditional values, such as fiscal restraint, the importance of family, and obedience to the clear dictates of the Constitution are denigrated as [fill in the blank]tards, “radicalized” and “teabaggers”, while leftwing extremists like Dede Scozzafava are termed “moderates” ? Karl Marx could run as an R and the sh1t baggers would label him a “moderate”.
Well, Jon, and Jon’s fellow sh1t baggers, lets review:
Hoffman in NY-23 started out a few weeks before the election in single digits, but came within 3 or 4 points of winning, in spite of RINO Scozzafava’s support for Democrat Owens. This is remarkable, considering Hoffman was on a third party ticket, and one major party ticket was endorsing the major party ticket.
Hoffman nearly pulled off this upset thanks to his staunch conservative values. RINO Scozzafava washed out because of her “moderate” ultra-left wing socialism.
Of course, the sh1t baggers don’t want a choice in the election; they want big government advocates on both tickets, so that no matter who is elected, nothing changes. Just as we have seen over the years, RINO “moderate” Republicans and “progressive” Democrats continue to chip away at our freedoms and increase our taxes.
Rebpublicans lost in 2006 and 2008, not because they were too conservative, but because they were indistinguishable from the Democrats.
Well, average taxpayers like me have had enough. What’s the point of electing someone just because they have an R next to their name if they are going to vote like they have a D next to their name? We are going to return Republicans to the majority in 2010, only this time we are NOT wasting our time and money electing phony Republicans who then turn around and screw us, no matter what sh1t baggers like Jon say.